Oct 2, 2012 5:00pm PDT
for anybody who studies his history and what he's done for this country, both as a veteran and as a civil rights leader but that's beside the point. the point is that this tape, for the most part, is much ado about nothing. but the republican sometimes can be pretty good at making something out of nothing. so it will be interesting to see how people react. >> gloria, what do you make of it? >> i just think that if you are disposed not to like president obama and you think that jeremiah wright ought to be relitigated, which i don't, that you are going to look at this and go oh, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, jeremiah wright. that was something that was discussed in the last campaign and for better or worse, let me disagree with eric here. i believe that people, voters, believe they know what they need to know about president obama. they may think he's done a great job of handling the economy, getting us out of the ditch. they may think that he's done a terrible job, in which case they will vote against him. but i think what a tape like this does is just sends people back into their corners and ki
Oct 1, 2012 4:00pm PDT
want a society where we take care of each other. >> joy-ann, the old republican party supported civil rights. when you define liberal and conservative, people support medicare with all their hearts and they do like this stuff, they like that we have a mixed capitalism with some social welfare mixed in to soften it and that makes them practical people and makes them liberal in a sense of functionality but not, i'm a liberal. your thoughts? >> you know, i agree. chris, two things have happened over the course of the last 20, 30 years. you have this slow turning away from the ideas of the new deal, at least from other people. the notions that these are handouts when it applies to other people, just by default, any democratic that gets elected, it was illegitimate. and then clinton comes along, he's illegit. you had it with kennedy. dead people in chicago really elected him. then clinton came along. he did win. i would think there was this notion that bill clinton was inherently illegitimate and nothing too extreme to dislodge him from the white house because he was de-facto illegitimate.
Sep 28, 2012 1:00pm PDT
impact especially on civil rights cases. and i think it's entirely poible the court may limit or even overrule justice o'connor's opinion getting rid of racial preferences more and more. >> so this is a case involving a state university, aic university. so if they decide that affirmative action giving a preference to certain students based on race for example is unconstitutional, would it also automatically apply to private universities that get federal aid, for example? >> not automatically. but this is the way the court works is that they decide one case at a time. and they establish principles that are later applied or not applied. each case can be somewhat diffent. but if t say that a university which is a part of the state may not consider race, that race is simply impermissib impermissible, you can be sure that that message will filter out not just through universities but also to employers and to the government. it could be an enormous change. we'll only deal with public universities this term. >> let me read to you from your column you wrote on cnn.com. very provocative but im